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Your Morning Boost - Relationships Are the Work: Sustaining Civil Engagement in Schools

The Ultimate Guide to Bridge-Building: Why Relationships are the Work! We wrap up our impactful week with Shannon Watson, Founder and Executive Director of Majority in the Middle (majoritymiddle.org). In this final segment, Shannon shares her deep experience leading successful bipartisan efforts, emphasizing why kindness and finding common ground are non-negotiable for navigating division in school leadership. Discover practical, low-effort tactics busy administrators can incorporate daily—like informal hallway check-ins—to make civil engagement a long-term priority, not just a crisis response. Learn why staying in relationship, practicing patience, and consistently modeling respectful behavior is the most powerful way to positively influence your school community. Action Item: Make relationship-building your top priority! Subscribe, share this powerful message, and visit awbeducation.org and grundmeyerleadersearch.com for more resources on sustaining leadership impact. Find out more about what we do: AWB Education - awbeducation.org Grundmeyer Leader Services - grundmeyerleadersearch.com Got a mailbag question? Reach out to us at adam@awbeducation.org

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The Ultimate Guide to Bridge-Building: Why Relationships are the Work! We wrap up our impactful week with Shannon Watson, Founder and Executive Director of Majority in the Middle (majoritymiddle.org). In this final segment, Shannon shares her deep experience leading successful bipartisan efforts, emphasizing why kindness and finding common ground are non-negotiable for navigating division in school leadership. Discover practical, low-effort tactics busy administrators can incorporate daily—like informal hallway check-ins—to make civil engagement a long-term priority, not just a crisis response. Learn why staying in relationship, practicing patience, and consistently modeling respectful behavior is the most powerful way to positively influence your school community. Action Item: Make relationship-building your top priority! Subscribe, share this powerful message, and visit awbeducation.org and grundmeyerleadersearch.com for more resources on sustaining leadership impact. Find out more about what we do: AWB Education - awbeducation.org Grundmeyer Leader Services - grundmeyerleadersearch.com Got a mailbag question? Reach out to us at adam@awbeducation.org

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Thank You for Listening! This has been an episode from The FowardED NetworkWhere we are Advancing Voices and Shaping Education. We are dedicated to supporting everyone invested in K-12 success: teachers, leaders, parents, and community advocates.

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00:00:17 --> 00:00:23 Grundmeyer Leader Services, where together we are transforming education, one leader at a time.
00:00:23 --> 00:00:27 Now, get ready to amplify your day with your morning boost.
00:00:31 --> 00:00:35 All right. Welcome back, listeners. Happy Friday, everybody.
00:00:35 --> 00:00:39 We've made it to the end of the week, and hopefully you've got an awesome weekend
00:00:39 --> 00:00:41 planned ahead of you, because I know darn well you've earned it.
00:00:41 --> 00:00:43 I'm sure you've earned it all week long.
00:00:43 --> 00:00:47 But welcome back to your morning boost, And welcome back to our special guest.
00:00:48 --> 00:00:50 Shannon Watson has been here with us all week.
00:00:50 --> 00:00:53 She's the founder and executive director of Majority in the Middle.
00:00:53 --> 00:00:57 And we're going to wrap up our fifth question and wrap up this series this week
00:00:57 --> 00:01:03 as we've been diving into this practice of civil engagement and building bridges
00:01:03 --> 00:01:07 and doing all of the great stuff that we as school leaders have an awesome responsibility,
00:01:07 --> 00:01:11 but yet opportunity to do to help lead our communities.
00:01:12 --> 00:01:17 Have you listened to Control Shift Lead, the new podcast from AWB Education
00:01:17 --> 00:01:19 and Inspired Edification?
00:01:19 --> 00:01:23 He stayed with the basics. He was never flashy. And I think that's one of the
00:01:23 --> 00:01:24 things that people like.
00:01:24 --> 00:01:30 If not, you are missing out. And I think of the word vulnerable comes to mind all the time.
00:01:30 --> 00:01:35 Every month, Jim and Adam bring you three things, something you can control,
00:01:35 --> 00:01:39 something that will shift your thinking, and something that can help you lead
00:01:39 --> 00:01:41 your school district or building.
00:01:41 --> 00:01:43 I need our staff to be that.
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00:01:54 --> 00:01:57 Shannon, welcome back. Are you ready for Friday's last question?
00:01:58 --> 00:01:59 I am always ready for Friday.
00:02:00 --> 00:02:03 Well, I would say that you're, you know, going to be challenged with any of
00:02:03 --> 00:02:07 these, but I haven't challenged you so far this week. You've been rocking these answers.
00:02:07 --> 00:02:12 Okay, bring on the easy question. That's right. So here we go to finish up Friday.
00:02:13 --> 00:02:19 How can busy administrators sustain the practice of civil engagement and bridge
00:02:19 --> 00:02:24 building to ensure that this work remains a constant leadership priority and
00:02:24 --> 00:02:26 not just a crisis response.
00:02:26 --> 00:02:31 Okay, so you did not save the easy question for Friday. Yes,
00:02:31 --> 00:02:32 practice, practice, practice.
00:02:33 --> 00:02:39 So the more that you can sort of model and internalize some of these things, the better.
00:02:39 --> 00:02:44 And I will say that with a caveat, it takes a while because sort of navigating
00:02:44 --> 00:02:51 division all the time is not something that we've been having to do,
00:02:52 --> 00:02:55 over, you know, the last 50 years or so.
00:02:56 --> 00:02:58 Not in the way that we have to do it today.
00:02:59 --> 00:03:03 So I think, give yourself a break. It takes a minute to build some of these skills.
00:03:03 --> 00:03:09 But then as much as you can internalize them and model them, that helps.
00:03:10 --> 00:03:13 So I have a sticky note.
00:03:13 --> 00:03:15 It's around here somewhere. It probably fell off the wall again.
00:03:15 --> 00:03:20 But so I, in my work life, had a tendency to...
00:03:21 --> 00:03:25 Deal with the work as being the tasks you
00:03:25 --> 00:03:27 know is the powerpoint presentation done did i send these three
00:03:27 --> 00:03:30 emails sure you know what's the
00:03:30 --> 00:03:34 is the agenda for the meeting you know written have
00:03:34 --> 00:03:40 i done the draft of whatever i was very lucky to be mentored later in my career
00:03:40 --> 00:03:44 than i that i would have liked man if this woman could have gotten a hold of
00:03:44 --> 00:03:50 me in my 20s that would have been awesome but the thing that she taught me is
00:03:50 --> 00:03:52 that the relationships are the work.
00:03:53 --> 00:03:56 That yes the things that you can cross off the to-do
00:03:56 --> 00:04:01 list are important but the relationships are
00:04:01 --> 00:04:07 the work and so the time that you take you know getting coffee with somebody
00:04:07 --> 00:04:13 or going to the professional development and instead of checking your phone
00:04:13 --> 00:04:16 speaking to people next to the coffee machine or,
00:04:16 --> 00:04:20 you know, checking in with people. How was your weekend?
00:04:20 --> 00:04:25 It's so easy when we're busy to sort of toss those things aside,
00:04:25 --> 00:04:31 you know, ask about people's kids, ask them, you know, talk about what you saw on TV on the weekend.
00:04:31 --> 00:04:35 But those things are really the building blocks of relationships.
00:04:35 --> 00:04:41 And so the more things that you can identify that you have in common,
00:04:41 --> 00:04:48 the easier the big things are to navigate, because then you're much less likely
00:04:48 --> 00:04:53 to generalize or put somebody in a box in a way that makes relating to them difficult.
00:04:54 --> 00:04:58 So I think focusing on how the relationships are the work.
00:04:59 --> 00:05:05 I got the opportunity to do a TED Talk a while back, and one of the things that
00:05:05 --> 00:05:11 we were able to highlight in the TED Talk is that finding common ground is really important,
00:05:11 --> 00:05:16 but so is kindness and dealing with people with respect, whether or not you
00:05:16 --> 00:05:17 believe the same things.
00:05:17 --> 00:05:24 And I had somebody one time tell me that, you know, being kind to another parent
00:05:24 --> 00:05:29 at the PTA meeting, no matter what they're saying in the moment,
00:05:29 --> 00:05:30 you know, in the public comment part.
00:05:31 --> 00:05:36 Being kind to those people does not mean that you automatically endorse their
00:05:36 --> 00:05:38 public policy position.
00:05:38 --> 00:05:44 Or talking about fishing with the guy in the next cubicle over who has a tendency
00:05:44 --> 00:05:45 to espouse conspiracy theories.
00:05:46 --> 00:05:49 That doesn't mean you also espouse the conspiracy theories.
00:05:50 --> 00:05:54 You are not endorsing anything that anybody else is saying just by being in
00:05:54 --> 00:05:55 relationship with them.
00:05:55 --> 00:06:00 And I think that's actually something that has become novel because a lot of
00:06:00 --> 00:06:03 primarily advocacy organizations have been pushing these things that, you know,
00:06:04 --> 00:06:07 okay, being in relationship with people who believe things that are different
00:06:07 --> 00:06:13 than you is harmful and that, you know, you should just exit those relationships.
00:06:13 --> 00:06:18 But I can tell you, exiting a relationship never changed anybody's mind.
00:06:18 --> 00:06:24 But being in relationship and being the model of something that might change
00:06:24 --> 00:06:29 somebody's mind, those are actually much more effective in the long run.
00:06:29 --> 00:06:31 Cutting somebody out of your life feels good in the
00:06:31 --> 00:06:34 moment but a lot of us don't have the option
00:06:34 --> 00:06:39 particularly with co-workers to just not deal with people so i think that's
00:06:39 --> 00:06:43 the thing focusing on the relationships and and kind of walking that civility
00:06:43 --> 00:06:48 around even when it doesn't look like civility it looks like kindness that can
00:06:48 --> 00:06:52 be a good way to to incorporate that into all of your day.
00:07:00 --> 00:07:04 So take advantage of them. You've got hallway check-ins. You have that moment
00:07:04 --> 00:07:08 where you're in line at the concession stand at the game and you see a parent
00:07:08 --> 00:07:10 next to you getting popcorn, too.
00:07:10 --> 00:07:14 I mean, you're right. It's all of those little moments that all add up in the end.
00:07:14 --> 00:07:19 That's great advice. And I'm not going to lie. I've already circled on my notes here.
00:07:20 --> 00:07:24 Relationships are the work. That might end up on a staff T-shirt here really
00:07:24 --> 00:07:25 shortly. That would be amazing.
00:07:26 --> 00:07:29 Yeah, I was going to say, if you don't have that phrase coined already,
00:07:29 --> 00:07:31 get busy. because that was a good one.
00:07:31 --> 00:07:35 That should be some, that should be some majority in the middle swag coming
00:07:35 --> 00:07:37 out that people can get their hands on. That's awesome.
00:07:38 --> 00:07:42 So speaking of majority of the middle, how can people get to know more about
00:07:42 --> 00:07:46 you and your mission and your, your group? How can they get in touch with you?
00:07:46 --> 00:07:51 Okay. So our, our website is majority middle.org.
00:07:51 --> 00:07:54 It's not majority in the middle. Somebody else owns majority in the middle.
00:07:55 --> 00:07:58 I'm waiting for them to let their, their registration lapse i don't want to
00:07:58 --> 00:08:01 tell them like hey can i have this can i buy this from you i don't want them
00:08:01 --> 00:08:05 to think it's valuable so i'm just waiting it out so in the meantime we are
00:08:05 --> 00:08:11 majority middle.org the best thing to do we encourage people who are just getting you,
00:08:12 --> 00:08:16 exposed to the group sign up for the newsletter we have a rule about the newsletter
00:08:16 --> 00:08:20 i send three or less emails per month Mm-hmm.
00:08:21 --> 00:08:24 I sometimes fight with my communications committee about that.
00:08:24 --> 00:08:26 That's a good one. Yeah, right.
00:08:26 --> 00:08:30 Yeah, there's too much email. There's too much email. And then just to note
00:08:30 --> 00:08:33 that we are headquartered in Minnesota.
00:08:33 --> 00:08:38 Our focus is on Minnesota right now because it's a good place to study bipartisanship.
00:08:38 --> 00:08:43 But what our sort of long-term strategy is to figure out what works here when
00:08:43 --> 00:08:47 it comes to structural partisanship and the bridging and the getting along and
00:08:47 --> 00:08:50 creating some systems that encourage people to work together.
00:08:50 --> 00:08:55 And then hopefully bring that to other states and have a replicable model.
00:08:55 --> 00:08:57 So we'll see. That's awesome. Yeah.
00:08:58 --> 00:09:01 That's awesome. Shannon, this has been a wonderful week. What a positive tone
00:09:01 --> 00:09:04 and some great advice for us to,
00:09:04 --> 00:09:09 yeah, it's part of the job, but it can certainly be an area that we can help
00:09:09 --> 00:09:13 push forward and get our students what they need to be successful every day.
00:09:13 --> 00:09:14 So that is really awesome.
00:09:14 --> 00:09:18 Awesome. Thanks for joining us. Absolutely. I really had a good time this week.
00:09:18 --> 00:09:19 Thanks so much for including me.
00:09:20 --> 00:09:23 You bet. Well, listeners, thank you for joining us as always.
00:09:23 --> 00:09:27 Have a wonderful Friday and have an even better weekend because like I said,
00:09:27 --> 00:09:29 I know you have earned it.
00:09:29 --> 00:09:33 Thank you. We will be back again next week with more on your morning boost.
00:09:33 --> 00:09:37 So until that time, thank you for listening. We will talk with you again next week.
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