The Meeting Isn’t the Work
A meeting can feel incredibly productive without actually producing very much.
We talked. We shared ideas. Everyone contributed. We may have even scheduled another meeting. But when people walk out of the room, what is actually different?
This week, we look at one of the easiest traps in school leadership: confusing conversation with progress. Some meetings absolutely need to happen. The problem isn’t meetings themselves. It’s bringing people together without being clear about what the work is supposed to accomplish.
We explore why repeated conversations carry a cultural cost, how poor follow-through slowly teaches people that their time and thinking may not matter, and why leaders should match the communication tool to the work. Sometimes the answer is a full meeting. Sometimes it’s an email. Sometimes three people simply need 15 minutes together.
The real test is simple: what moved because we met?
If a meeting ends without a decision, a clear next step, an assigned owner, or a problem that is meaningfully closer to being solved, leaders should ask whether the meeting was the right tool in the first place.
What You’ll Hear:
- Why productive conversation isn’t always productive work
- The cultural cost of repeatedly reopening the same issues
- Why unclear outcomes can lead to disengagement and multitasking
- How to decide between a meeting, an email, or a smaller conversation
- Why every meeting should leave something different behind
- How clear ownership and next steps turn discussion into momentum
Key Takeaways:
- A meeting can feel productive while creating very little actual change
- Leaders should decide before a meeting what should be different when people leave
- Reopening the same issues without clear records or follow-through erodes trust
- The communication tool should match the work
- Every meeting should end with a decision, a clarified next step, or an assigned owner
- Meetings should create momentum, not simply consume time
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I have had a meeting to plan a meeting.
Speaker AHonestly, I have even had a meeting to plan how we were going to have a meeting to plan another meeting.
Speaker ASadly, I'm guessing many of you have had this too.
Speaker AAnd the worst part is, in my particular case, I'm not even sure we were wrong to do it that way.
Speaker AWe probably did need to coordinate.
Speaker AWe probably did need to get some things from figured out before we brought a larger group of people together to figure out how we're going to bring a large group together.
Speaker ABut I remember sitting there thinking this better turn into something because we are investing an awful lot of time just figuring out how we are going to spend more time.
Speaker AAnd I think that is one of the easiest traps that leaders can fall into.
Speaker AWe can have a meeting that feels incredibly productive without actually producing very much.
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Speaker AMeetings get an awful lot of criticism, and to be fair, some of them probably deserve it.
Speaker ABut I do not want this to become one of those conversations where we all joke that every meeting should have just been an email.
Speaker ASome meetings absolutely should not have been an email.
Speaker AThere is work that requires people to sit together to wrestle with an issue, to hear some different perspectives and eventually come to some shared understanding.
Speaker AThere are decisions that need conversation.
Speaker AThere are problems that are easier to solve when the right people are sitting in the same room.
Speaker ASo I am not anti meeting.
Speaker AWhat I'm more interested in is whether we are clear about what the meeting is supposed to accomplish before we ever put it on the calendar.
Speaker ANot just what are we going to talk about, but what should be different when we leave.
Speaker AA while back I was part of a meeting that started feeling strangely familiar.
Speaker AAnd as it went on, all of a sudden I realized why.
Speaker AWe had basically already had this meeting.
Speaker AIt was the same issue, a very similar conversation.
Speaker AWe had many of the same people in the room.
Speaker ASo guess what?
Speaker AIt had a lot of the same ideas.
Speaker AThe difference was that the person leading the meeting had not been part of the previous meeting, and we had all done a really poor job of capturing what had happened before in the previous meeting.
Speaker AWe did not have a useful record of what had been decided, or what questions had already been asked and answered, or what was still not answered, or really even who was supposed to do what next.
Speaker ASo guess what we did?
Speaker AWe did it all again.
Speaker AAnd I remember thinking about the cost of that and not the financial cost.
Speaker AI'm talking about the cultural cost lost.
Speaker ABecause when people give us their time, their thinking, their attention, and then when we ask them to redo this again and do the same work because the organization didn't capture it well enough the first time, we're teaching them something.
Speaker AWe are teaching them that maybe the conversation really wasn't that important.
Speaker AMaybe the decision was really not a decision.
Speaker AMaybe there is no reason to invest too deeply because there is a decent chance we are going to start over again later.
Speaker AThat wears on people and eventually they start sitting back or they multitask.
Speaker AThey may just wait to see whether the conversation is actually going somewhere before they bother putting any energy into it.
Speaker AAnd once that starts happening, the meeting may still look productive from the front of the room while the people sitting around the table are just slowly checking out.
Speaker AThat's why I keep coming back to one pretty simple what is different because we met?
Speaker AMaybe we made a decision.
Speaker AMaybe we made something clearer.
Speaker AMaybe somebody now owns the next step so they can continue on.
Speaker AOr maybe we finally got the right people together and solved a problem that had just been hanging out there for weeks.
Speaker AThe answer doesn't have to be dramatic, but there should probably be an answer.
Speaker ABecause if the only evidence that the meeting happened is that everybody remembers being there, we probably didn't leave enough behind.
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Speaker AOf course, this leads us to the phrase and everybody likes to use this meeting could have been an email, okay?
Speaker AAnd sometimes it probably could have.
Speaker AIf 12 people are sitting in a room while one person reads information to them that could have been sent in writing, I think it's fair to ask why 12 people needed to be there in the first place.
Speaker ABut I've also heard Leaders say I can't send it in an email because nobody reads my emails.
Speaker AOkay, but then I think we need to figure out why that is.
Speaker AMaybe we're sending too many.
Speaker AMaybe they're arriving at random times, or maybe every other message is labeled important.
Speaker ASometimes people have gotten so used to sorting through noise that they're no longer sure which communication even matters anymore.
Speaker AYears ago, I worked in one building where I thought the administrative communication system was excellent.
Speaker AAnd it was really pretty simple.
Speaker AWe sent one weekly email and it was sent every Friday afternoon.
Speaker AThat's where all the information lived.
Speaker AAnd the part that I think made it work was that the administrative team, we had to hold ourselves accountable to that system too.
Speaker AWe didn't spend the rest of the week sending random messages.
Speaker AEvery time one of us remembered something, unless something truly could not wait, it went to the Friday communication.
Speaker AThat made the expectation pretty clear.
Speaker AStaff knew where to look, and we had done our part to make the communication manageable.
Speaker AThat made it much easier for me to say, hey, you need to read this.
Speaker AAnd I think that's an important piece of accountability.
Speaker AYou can't create a chaotic communication system and then be frustrated when people struggle to keep up with it.
Speaker AIf people are not reading what we send, maybe the first question should not be what is wrong with them?
Speaker AMaybe we should look at what we're asking them to sort through.
Speaker AAnd then there's another option that I think we sometimes overlook.
Speaker AMaybe the issue doesn't need a meeting.
Speaker AMaybe it also doesn't need an all staff email.
Speaker AMaybe we just need to find the three people that we need to talk with.
Speaker AIf that's the case, go find the three people.
Speaker AI think technology has made it just so easy to communicate with everybody that sometimes we forget there is value in communicating with fewer people and doing it in person.
Speaker AWe can add 30 people to a calendar invitation in seconds, and we can copy an entire group onto an email just in case.
Speaker ABut involving more people does not automatically make the communication better.
Speaker ASometimes the best thing you can do is figure out who actually needs to be part of the conversation and then get those people together.
Speaker AThat protects everyone else's time too.
Speaker AThis might be the piece that matters most.
Speaker AWe have a lot of ways to communicate now, and none of them is automatically the right choice.
Speaker AIf people simply need information, a well structured email might be the absolutely perfect way to do that.
Speaker AIf people need to work through something together, that email, that might be a terrible choice.
Speaker AIf those three people I've been talking about need to make a decision, Maybe they need 15 minutes together instead of a 30 message email chain.
Speaker AAnd we just have to figure out how to give them 15 minutes together.
Speaker AAnd if something has already been decided, we probably need a way to capture that so that we don't have to keep reopening the same conversation every time somebody new enters the room.
Speaker AThe tool should fit the work.
Speaker AAnd when the tool is a meeting, people should probably know what kind of meeting they're walking into.
Speaker AAre we here to learn?
Speaker AAre we here to solve something?
Speaker AAre we here to make a decision?
Speaker AOne of the most frustrating meetings is the one where half the room thinks a decision is being made and the other half thinks everybody else is just sharing ideas.
Speaker AMeetings like that, people walk out believing completely different things happened.
Speaker AAnd that's not a meeting problem, that's a clarity problem.
Speaker AI don't think the goal here is for fewer meetings just for the sake of saying that we have fewer meetings.
Speaker AThere are meetings that absolutely change the work.
Speaker APeople leave with a clear understanding, a decision gets made, a problem gets solved.
Speaker AMaybe something that had been stuck starts moving again.
Speaker AThose are meetings that are absolutely worth the time because you can see the outcome.
Speaker ABut the meeting itself is not the accomplishment.
Speaker AThe accomplishment is that outcome.
Speaker AIt is what happens because we met.
Speaker AAnd I think it is easy to forget because putting something on the calendar that feels like action.
Speaker AWe met about it, we discussed it.
Speaker AWe already have our next meeting scheduled.
Speaker AOkay, but what moved?
Speaker AThat's the question.
Speaker AA meeting should create momentum.
Speaker AIt shouldn't just consume time.
Speaker ASo before you put the next meeting on the calendar, think about what the work actually requires.
Speaker AMaybe it needs a meeting, maybe it needs an email.
Speaker AOr maybe it needs a few people in a room for 15 minutes.
Speaker AOr maybe it needs a decision that has already been made to finally stay made.
Speaker AAnd if it does need a meeting, make sure something is different when people walk out than when they walked in.
Speaker AThat is how we respect the time people give us.
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